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Josh April 15, 2017 at 9:55 am.
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JoshHistorically, the FBI benefits from having the best public relations and marketing out of all those organizations. For starters, there is a fractional part of the FBI that actually solves some crimes not related to US Deep State (or rival to it in some way). This is loudly trumpeted as a public service, and it is a public service. The people involved in those branches of the FBI are sincere public servants. Even some/many(most?) of the people involved in couter intel or counter terrorism are sincere. None of them are informed about the extent of FBI crime. Bones is my daughter’s favorite tv show. The characters are all good people fighting regular DC crime. That’s the impression the FBI gives to the public. It is great PR because it is based on truth.
But the crime fighting part of the FBI is tiny fraction and not in control. The Counter-Intel part always takes priority and the criminal part takes priority over the legit counter intel part. Al Capone was generous with giving to charity and sometimes loved in Chicago for that and for defying the unpopular prohibition. But everybody knew he was a hard core crook. The FBI has been a lot more successful with hiding it’s reality. One reason is because FBI corruption is not for material gain or purely personal pleasure. Most of the canonical models that people have for criminals do not fit the FBI. They are a fifth column political/sexual cult that does violent crime for the long term.
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JoshThink of Aryan Nation as run by the evil Mr. Spock from the anti-matter universe and you get the sense of FBI as a formidable criminal.
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JoshPeople associate Aryan Nation with idiots and Spock with intelligence so it’s hard to combine. Hitler also has a reputation for stupidity and impulsiveness. What does a super rational/scientific very evil cult look like? We don’t learn much about the fictional Professor Moriarity’s organization, which suggests its tricky to imagine without magical orcs, goblins, etc. Ayn Rand argued for elitism but not mass murder.
So what does the anti-matter Spock believe in as a political figure. He believes in science, rationality (as he understands it), power, secrecy, ruthlessness, calculation, elitism, force, discipline. He’s not fond of personal peccadillos, but he recognizes that they can be tolerated and even thrive if one is superior in other ways. Hoover’s FBI seems to have started with some sexual deviance and decided that closeted sexual deviants can make the best Spooks – best at keeping secrets, not betraying the group, not going in for unsanctioned personal corruptions – closeted deviants as mighty secret Sparta is a model that worked for him. I don’t say “deviants” as a moral or social judgment. Being “deviants” to society at large is part of the point to keeping secrecy and group cohesion. When society becomes accepting of something that used to be considered deviant – e.g. gay marriage – then the goal posts have to be moved to only include things that are currently viewed as deviant.
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JoshThe FBI positions itself as a natural ally to POWER. The FBI offers almost unconditional support to power – legal & illegal, public and covert – in exchange for no rivals, no true oversight, no charges against the FBI, decent budget/power and freedom to do as it pleases. The permanent Deep State govt. that knows about secret stuff is a closer, more natural ally, than politicians who can come and go. Hoover hated the Kennedys for trying to tell him what to do – investigate the KKK, investigate organized crime, etc. He had his reasons for not wanting to do those things and he didn’t want to be told to do them by any temporary politician. He helped to make sure they were even more temporary.
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JoshWhen one is a target of the FBI – you have few or zero allies in politics, in the US security state, or the media. The FBI can and will do whatever it wants to end your existence as long as that isn’t too obvious. It’s a tough mission.
Because my friends are CIA slaves and because the FBI has joined itself to rest of the covert Deep State and because the covert Deep State is very much acting against the broader public interest – I’m aligning myself with the public at large, against the entire Deep State and its media owning allies.
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JoshOne of the weaknesses of the US Deep State is that most of its own troops don’t know about or actually support the extent of its crimes. The security design is for them to not really know anything about the actual crimes they commit – they are involved in murders in many cases without even knowing a murder took place, who the target was, or why they were targeted. They follow orders to do some tiny thing – drive a car, deliver a package, work on a tech device, steal/copy a document, forge something, etc. It’s all good, all for Uncle – so most of them believe. For this reason, successfully exposing crimes is a kind of judo move. Deep State fights very hard against that, because it hurts when it happens.
FBI counter-intel men are probably the most Deep-State-loyal of any non-leadership group. but even they don’t support all the crimes or the military/covert waste of resources.
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JoshWhen CIA/FBI are proven to have been collaborators in JFK murder, lying about Vietnam, OKC bombing, 9/11, and lying about various things related to War on Terror, and the public understands how much wasteful other spending and violence was justified on these false flag grounds, then the public understands that these organizations are very negative overall. They do a lot more harm than good.
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JoshIs the Anti-matter, evil Spock vain? He’s a fictional device, so we can draw him whichever way we want, either same or opposite to regular Spock in some dimension, or less latent where Spock is repressed…
The FBI very much desires to be *seen* as virtuous, effective, contributing public servants. In reality, the FBI chooses the opposite path for most of its effort. That’s an unsustainable contradiction. There is no point slamming the FBI in false or unsustainable ways. There are plenty of true things to notice and uncover. If the FBI gets sufficiently slammed in public it may start to break itself up because psychologically, the people are in it partly to buff their self-image. They can’t deal with the public seeing them for real as crooks. That breaks their illicit social contract with the FBI umbrella. There is no point to a closet if one is seen as naked and ugly inside of it.
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