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Josh March 22, 2017 at 3:34 pm.
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February 19, 2017 at 10:15 am #1136

JoshThis was a sneaky way of telling me I tweeted at the wrong apparachik? Today…
@misc_CIA_victim they produced evidence and had a closed door briefing with Senate Intel committee members a day ago. Try to keep up.
— Cheri Jacobus (@CheriJacobus) February 19, 2017
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February 19, 2017 at 2:09 pm #1137

JoshFBI dudes are saying we remind them of Nacho Libre.
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February 19, 2017 at 3:12 pm #1138

JoshOn my way home…was that a real hawk I saw carrying a big prey? Or a Sears Hawk?
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February 20, 2017 at 2:18 am #1140

JoshAt the moment I have two “IndyNews lists” that overlap a lot – one in a PHP file I convert to HTML and the other on Twitter. The small number and overlap is a bit artificial/temporary. In my head, there are a larger number of distinctions with an intersection. One way to think about differents lists is in terms of what is useful for different projects for me. And another way is in terms of what is useful for different projects of others. In the current moment, the main utility has been helping me find the most current content and helping allied thinkers at small sites find each other (with help). More allies is always good, but attention can get easily diluted. The urgency in a Kucinich, Greenwald, Robert Steele, Parry, etc. doesn’t come from me. It comes from people who have seen ugly shit and seen it stuffed by the mainstream propaganda machine. They have a sense that breaking the dam of lies is important for society/truth and it hasn’t happened except in a small way in the mid-70s, when Spook power was at its nadir. For that reason, the first stage is easier because those people already realize a lot and are prepared to notice a lot more. Tougher stage is converting other people in quantity from not paying attention to start paying attention. Easy for me when Spook comes calling to kill me. Takes a lot more from someone busy living a regular life.
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February 20, 2017 at 3:23 am #1141

JoshI’m not in favor of making anything up. Let’s return to the example of criminal and civil trials. We are sensibly happy with the idea that guilt of a criminal defendant has to be proven “beyond a shadow of a doubt”. We are dismayed that a lot of innocent people get convicted anyway and even more guilty ones go free. We accept that defendants will be motivated to lie in order to protect their innocence and that many crimes are committed for some kind of material gain. We accept that civil trials are decided by a preponderance of evidence and not “beyond a shadow of a doubt”.
Now consider the topic of CIA & FBI crime & treason. We accept that Spooks have unique abilities to lie and deceive when they wish to. We know these groups have existed for many decades and been given huge sums of money to perfect and improve those abilities. We understand that they have been given huge legal and military protections that shield them from most outside investigation and oversight in theory, and ALL outside investigation and oversight in practice. In the CIA, FBI, New York Times, WaPo view of the world, they are supposed to be treated as above suspicion. When they are accused of something, we do not treat them like a criminal defendant where it is assumed that criminal defendants lie and coverup to protect themselves. The tables are turned and the accuser is publicly treated as anti-American for questioning their great integrity and patriotism, actually inquiry is legally and practically blocked, and the accuser sometimes meets and untimely medical or professional end which, again, cannot be conclusively proved without a shadow of a doubt to have been caused by Spook.
That situation is a recipe for disaster. It’s like a destructive virus that taken over the executive and the ROM of a computer system. The system can’t recover until it’s wiped clean.
So Job #1 is to make public space for these accusations and wipe away the premise that they need to somehow be proved without a shadow of a doubt. That is like starting every criminal court case where the prosecutor has to first prove that defendants often lie about evidence and motives. We can look at history and find overwhelming evidence of lies, crime, and treason from these bad actors over and over again. We do not need to find prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the current crop of Spook representatives contains some individual “bad apples”. A surplus of individual bad apples is not our problem. Corrupt rule by shadow Spook government – a mafia-like consortium is our problem. This group believes that their secret control of “security”, foreign policy, and US military budget is a preferred system – much better, in their view than control by public law and democracy. Gullible Truman and Co. gave them a big head start on that power, and then they took the rest with propaganda, Spook tricks, lies, false flags, etc.
Again, the point is not to make things up, but to insist that looking at patterns of evidence and public mooting of accusations is more than legitimate – it’s necessary, long overdue, and only a start in terms of what needs to be done.
Here's a browser extension that turns Trump's tweets into children's scribble https://t.co/YcIaYf2ipk
— indy100 (@indy100) February 20, 2017
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February 21, 2017 at 2:29 am #1145

JoshDarrell Waltrip noted.
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February 21, 2017 at 2:52 am #1146

JoshI should also note that the Anna style abbrev usage was well done.
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February 21, 2017 at 7:26 am #1151

JoshI always support all of my friends for being themselves. Would never try to take that away from anyone, especially friends I care about.
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February 21, 2017 at 8:53 am #1152

JoshEV sounds bored. IMO, she should demand to talk to a different fascist lying mouthpiece every day so she can explain why permanent incarceration was really not in her contract. They need to go back and check that.
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February 21, 2017 at 8:55 am #1153

JoshI’m not being sarcastic. Complaining at more different people helps. The same person, not so much.
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February 21, 2017 at 9:00 am #1154

JoshNot too interesting. How does he feel about his crimes and treason? Is he proud of that? Does he see himself as a true fifth column?
"Le Pen had been informed beforehand about the requirement & thus surprised the cleric’s…office with her refusal." https://t.co/MHWOosRueJ
— The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) February 21, 2017
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February 21, 2017 at 9:02 am #1155

JoshWhat does he believe is paying for him? Who does he think is doing real work somewhere to fund him keeping slaves, telling lies, and inserting things in his rectum?
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February 21, 2017 at 11:07 am #1158

JoshHypothesis: Everyone who is taught LCs is basically someone who Spook intends to be only an “in person” – not allowed to roam around free. It’s a big secret.
True or False?
If that’s true or almost true – I’d like to know what you all did before you were taught? What was the trigger, if you were not born inside?
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February 23, 2017 at 2:50 am #1179

JoshWe can set an example, being close, sexy, caring about each other, and being super happy together. Then we try to help our friends be super happy too. Tough fighting through the world’s “greatest” criminals/torturers, but we can try. None of us have forever…so we try our best, today, and tomorrow, and…forever.
WATCH: 'Get her inside!' Susanna Reid in PANIC as GMB weather girl gets TAKEN OUT by #StromDoris https://t.co/ESTD8MfS6p pic.twitter.com/ndMW3CIhHB
— Daily Express (@Daily_Express) February 23, 2017
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February 24, 2017 at 4:51 am #1190

JoshAll of us are helped a lot when we can get some kind of positive feedback and encouragement for trying to do good things and being the best we can be. We should all try to become strong in the ways that work best for us. Part of being a good friend is having insight into what those ways are for the people I care about.
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February 24, 2017 at 5:10 am #1192

JoshU know the value of feeling good about yourself and energized. That’s an hourly, daily, weekly, monthly, and annual effect.
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February 26, 2017 at 2:26 pm #1262

JoshYou must teach me the secret of learning to be Eastern European through a virtual correspondence course. That is a pretty impressive intellectual feat when one stops to really think about it 🙂 Like a secret egg salad recipe!
The truth is, this is sanctimonious and tedious. pic.twitter.com/0JlwMEpGKV
— daniel halper (@danielhalper) February 26, 2017
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February 26, 2017 at 2:41 pm #1263

JoshTwas Jerry, Speedy’s cousin.
America has extraordinary natural resources – let’s start using them https://t.co/dXwG1sD17W pic.twitter.com/NFsbI4FCFL
— U.S. Chamber (@USChamber) February 26, 2017
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February 27, 2017 at 8:26 am #1268

JoshThere are too many mismatches in this story. It’s still a story crafted for my friends, not for truth. Better to be agnostic about the truth when it doesn’t matter now.
Saska Cvetkovska wants to do anything she can to stop the flow of false information online. https://t.co/tO6SDLtbsi
— USA TODAY (@USATODAY) February 27, 2017
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February 27, 2017 at 9:03 am #1270

JoshI bless everyone’s fantasy dreams…keeps people going, especially in prison. My dreams are always going to focus on getting out of prison.
Freeing one’s mind helps. I’ve seen enough of Spook propaganda and nonsense style to understand the need for continually emphasizing that stupid false analogies are neither a means of communication nor a meaningful mechanism of claiming authority or legitimacy. It’s usually a mistake to accept them as anything other than a soft attack.
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February 27, 2017 at 9:06 am #1271

JoshTo take one example – Spook wants to get Mustang Trump under Deep State control at the moment, so you all encouraged to express yourself in the form of Trump bashing, and you feel sneaky using that as a well of criticizing CIA/FBI. But to the affairs of the World, that is meaningless and you are simply doing their bidding/task of the day.
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February 28, 2017 at 8:37 am #1303

JoshLet’s be aware of a goal – to always be people that each other can absolutely trust…because of our nature, and commitment to that value plus any effort it takes.
Kim Woodburn reveals she was sexually abused by her father when she was ‘very young’ and admits she could never te… https://t.co/h8YxvptCld
— The Sun Showbiz (@TheSunShowbiz) February 28, 2017
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February 28, 2017 at 11:47 am #1305

JoshI feel that what I have said and felt has been super consistent. That was true over a long time, and 100% true over past 2 years. Maybe you see that too…but if not, I don’t have good insight into why not. My plan to keep my friends close is the same. My plan to prioritize my relationship and root for that is the same. You and Anna caring about each other, but making other feelings more of a priority is the same.
Locally in time…I’m making progress on a number of fronts, while the EMF war stays tough. I need to get the devices off (or inside) in order to make huge improvement. If I don’t do that, then their improvements in batteries, wireless power, the number of devices they can switch between, etc. end up wearing me down. But I have covered the entire ceiling of the basement, so that is helping.
In terms of getting allies – the insiders see the most but can be ordered to be enemies instead of allies…so their help is passive aggressive. Most outsiders don’t see, but they can be slowly educated, to the extent that I can reach them. I see signs of progress. We’ve got a long way to go. Every bit helps. Creating more distractions helps to spread their resources more thinly, which also helps.
The plan is to reform the CIA, FBI, and DOD, end slavery, end the destruction of Democracy and the destruction of History, and try to have that happen before we are all killed. Reform will come from outside and from inside.
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March 2, 2017 at 2:39 am #1316

JoshIt’s been a long time since we heard from EV.
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March 3, 2017 at 8:15 am #1332

JoshI’ll point out for EV…you cannot get them to show you 1 real example of an outsider who witnessed a “big error” and then became an “in” slave. Outsiders would not generally want to become in slaves and the CIA does not want them in general, and especially doesn’t want anyone who is woke. So that kind of thing is a non-starter.
Truth is that no matter how dystopian things seem, they could always be worse (not just raining). Dying in without trying to fight is worse than trying.
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March 3, 2017 at 5:05 am #1326

JoshI like all my friends to feel good about themselves and to hope for things in the future that will be right for that.
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March 3, 2017 at 8:54 pm #1338

JoshIs that meant be respectful or…? I can’t tell.
It's our favorite time of year. The one where Justin Timberlake pours his heart out to Jessica Biel on her birthday: https://t.co/dDjCqMJKIf pic.twitter.com/oocOWypgN6
— E! News (@enews) March 4, 2017
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March 3, 2017 at 8:58 pm #1339

JoshMy judgment/instincts were correct that freedom was #1/first problem to solve. I didn’t have accurate info on the situation, but I got that correct anyway.
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March 3, 2017 at 9:05 pm #1340

JoshU trust me, now, to take care of u. But u still feel untaken care of from some past times?
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March 3, 2017 at 9:11 pm #1341

JoshSometimes emotional priorities still feel like a struggle…I hope that will change when we are free & together.
Suspect in 2005 Brooklyn beheading mouths "I love you" to victim's mother before pleading not guilty https://t.co/p0RRRwaWdk pic.twitter.com/MdUACbDqXs
— New York Daily News (@NYDailyNews) March 4, 2017
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March 4, 2017 at 11:14 am #1348

JoshI continue to be impressed with Mr. Corbett. He’s got a complete package of fluid verbal skills, analysis, and values. The interview with M. Hussain was not a great podcast – Hussain’s accent takes a bit of time to get used to and the fidelity of the connection was low and they didn’t prepare any stories. Even so, Corbett gets to the key point that wasn’t highlighted in The Intercept article – the story that the accused “terrorist” and his family were threatened with a knife by the FBI informant to go along with directions comes from the FBI itself and not a story by the accused.
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March 3, 2017 at 9:14 pm #1342

JoshWhat public records?
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March 3, 2017 at 9:22 pm #1343

JoshU had to get your confidence back…after u dumped me…and the situation wasn’t allowing for that. How was I supposed to know?
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March 3, 2017 at 9:28 pm #1344

Josh7000 years…or just a really good connection…I wanted a really good connection…I had trust issues of circumstance which made good sense at the time.
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March 3, 2017 at 9:46 pm #1345

JoshBeing with u now, has a different sense & feel…I know how we feel inside u. We share that. U should understand that I always meant that we go, wherever we go, together. Could be talking or silent. I’m glad u feel confident.
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March 4, 2017 at 11:07 pm #1352

JoshI need to get better at multi-tasking while getting EMF attacked Focus on work, focus on writing, focus on PR, and focus on defending myself…every day…need to do those things and not lose focus, as best I can.
Someone asked about where the CIA/FBI/Pentagon coalition cracks. We don’t see those cracks. They only happen internally, when people who have been lied to realize that and don’t like the reality. Politicians are affected by polls and voters and donors. The media are affected by audience and advertisers, the opinions of their employees, and reputation points. These type of things don’t shift gradually…they have a lot of breaking points for herd behavior. Someone yells the obvious, loudly, and the herd moves all of a sudden.
We didn’t win our media war last Summer, but maybe the distraction was one of the causes that led to HRC loss. That wasn’t something we planned, but it’s evidence of limited resources to fight every battle. “Fake news” fight isn’t going well for them. One can see that they don’t win every battle. Wars take a long time…
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March 4, 2017 at 11:40 pm #1355

JoshI took a hard look at the ventilated soffit in front today and did some more research. It seems that when builders put it on, they first nail the channel groove against the house wall then nail some pieces of soffit, slide others against the steady ones, then nail the drip edge over the outside, (what’s underneath the gutters), curling it around the soffit panels. And the sides go on last. So how did the FBI burglars get under there in a hurry? I’m thinking that they took off pieces of the channel from the house and where able to pull some individual panels down that way, enough to get access. So I need to try and judiciously replicate that plan without making a mess.
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March 6, 2017 at 1:24 pm #1368

JoshWe try to stay focused on the most positive things, and things that help.
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March 4, 2017 at 11:31 pm #1354

JoshGirls got talent!
Seems like Roger Stone deleted this tweet pic.twitter.com/xVzMJ3ZKX0
— Murtaza Hussain (@MazMHussain) March 5, 2017
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March 4, 2017 at 11:54 pm #1356

JoshIt seems that Roger Stone Jr. has become a kind of Infowars section of Republican political campaign consultants. Good for business, perhaps….and there was some kind of pro-Trump rally on UC Berkeley campus that got covered on the news for turning into a riot.
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March 5, 2017 at 3:27 pm #1359

JoshEV is taking a lot of PsyOps abuse these days. We should support her as a friend, but not rely on her as a grapevine.
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March 5, 2017 at 4:19 pm #1361

JoshTry to broker deals in prison? Problem is that CIA and FBI are running the prison and they aren’t short of anything except the ghost editor slave labor and reputation points.
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March 8, 2017 at 6:16 am #1394

JoshPrior, Cuba related note, contained no thoughts about Flor (from me). But now my train of thought is wondering whether Flor’s father might actually have been Cuban. Are there any clues pointing in that direction?
North Carolina teen walked out of home with mother's decapitated head, lawyer says he's "profoundly disturbed" https://t.co/lfav1BOjwe pic.twitter.com/Rb0MbkO98e
— New York Daily News (@NYDailyNews) March 8, 2017
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March 9, 2017 at 3:31 pm #1422

JoshThat was a pioneer hearty stock woman you see there, Travis 🙂
Very touching tribute to Leader Bob Michel by @SpeakerRyan this afternoon. Watch: https://t.co/Ua14zAFo40
— Newt Gingrich (@newtgingrich) March 9, 2017
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March 9, 2017 at 5:18 pm #1428

JoshWhat do you feel I am wasting too much time on…besides quick eating?
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March 9, 2017 at 5:26 pm #1429

JoshU think I should put more effort into being healthy issues and less time strategizing about whether any group of insiders might help? But insiders are most of the audience I can actually reach. Even most of the input into the writers I want to reach with ideas. They don’t talk directly, so I have to guess their motivations. It’s an inefficient search in a poorly modeled space.
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March 9, 2017 at 5:43 pm #1430

JoshI have a sense that you have heard enough testimony from insiders to the effect that FBI tells standard false stories about sex to only in people in every coverup. The stories are false by design, convey no true info, and our not told to any out people. They are simply a way to purge true info from in people’s converation.
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March 9, 2017 at 5:48 pm #1431

JoshWhat did they tell the local police. I think they told them that they are investigating leads related to foreign terrorism, that those leads are not about me, and that I am just a crazy nobody in the way he should be watched as an unstable mental loony. That is the pattern of lies they gave the local police. I think they gave a different pattern of lies to the local FBI to put them on the sidelines. I haven’t figured out the problem of how to get standing to challenge the installation of gangs of FBI criminals in all the homes around me. Of course it has nothing to do with terrorism. But most of the FBI work is false flag that has nothing to do with terrorism. It is more efficient to point out that most of the FBI is a false flag fraud than to fight my specific case with no local allies I can call on at present. When I get some, it will be a different story.
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March 12, 2017 at 1:29 pm #1465

JoshSometimes it’s good to think about which ideas and feelings are really important, which are helpful, and which are neither – just habits of thought or action that one can lose and be well rid of. I feel like a lot of fears are in the 3rd category.
"I live in fear that my daughter will inherit my depression" https://t.co/Q1YnnJbqH5
— Washington Post (@washingtonpost) March 12, 2017
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March 12, 2017 at 1:39 pm #1466

JoshSense of me as a representative of a distant, impossible, no contact fantasy vs. sense of me as an actual person trying to get together…were different…time periods were different…some spin bias motivations change too with time and situation.
I understand issue being sensitive and requiring polite manners and respect for loved ones – but on the other hand secrecy questionable https://t.co/8ljfQvyxVN
— Citizen Halo (@haloefekti) March 12, 2017
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March 12, 2017 at 1:41 pm #1467

JoshA different kind of data point was your Mom, wanting u to be free, while doing everything to prevent that and make it impossible. What made sense in isolation didn’t feel possible in current reality.
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March 12, 2017 at 2:06 pm #1468

JoshI feel all of my friends are cool. Disputes, disagreements, etc. can coexist. And then someone says “But I feel really strongly about it…” Like I said, feelings can be tolerated. Even if it’s ultimately such a strong disagreement that you need space, it’s still better to wait on deciding that until after we all earn freedom.
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March 12, 2017 at 2:46 pm #1470

JoshI expect all of us to keep changing, hopefully in positive ways. I try to be honest about what I think today and what I guess/hope the future is like.
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March 13, 2017 at 9:26 pm #1498

JoshThere aren’t really timeouts in good love relationships. Not in that way. Friendships take priority for true emergencies…
For all your love relationships…you want a partner who is committed to you…your feelings, especially.
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March 13, 2017 at 11:50 pm #1500

JoshI feel like u are not being fair to us. But I’m not sure why.
Has Adele seen this?!?! https://t.co/r3LVaueE1V
— ELLE Magazine (US) (@ELLEmagazine) March 14, 2017
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March 13, 2017 at 11:59 pm #1501

JoshU feel frustrated to be far away…try to imagine us being close…touch, scent, everything included.
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March 14, 2017 at 12:11 am #1502

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March 14, 2017 at 12:16 am #1503

JoshTry again
boathouse row 1
boathouse row 2Atlantic city casino, probably not Christmas
How did I do?
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March 14, 2017 at 12:25 am #1504

JoshI don’t remember any real special lights from Florida with the fam. We did eat in a restaurant in the Cinderella castle in the evening, but whatever I saw was the stock photo with no fireworks. It doesn’t look like Hogwarts set or anything so grand as that on the inside.
There was a kind of kid’s restaurant on Baltimore Pike I liked a lot when I was little that had some lights inside. Wouldn’t be able to find a picture, and it probably wouldn’t look like much to an adult if I did.
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March 14, 2017 at 12:27 am #1505

JoshWe went to Longwood Gardens a few times for the Christmas lights. I’m sure I could find a picture of that, but I didn’t think it would have any emotional resonance for u or me.
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March 16, 2017 at 3:42 pm #1550

JoshOne common idea about ethics is to prefer what is best overall for the set of people who count in the policy discussion. Of course there is a disagreement about what that would be in practice and who counts, and whether the counter is equal, and…Feeling good about an idea, wishing for it, isn’t the same as having a good reason to believe it would be best in practice. You know I always value my friends’ true feelings and the relationship that makes them even want to share.
#Corrie‘s Jane Danson hints Peter Barlow could be the real father of Leanne Battersby’s baby https://t.co/SyTfclrYGS pic.twitter.com/t72pGRx7H0
— The Sun (@TheSun) March 16, 2017
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March 17, 2017 at 8:25 pm #1565

JoshYou can be cute in your own bear coat.
Uniqlo eyes speed to take on Zara for global crown https://t.co/V44Pvv518s pic.twitter.com/HAFzeOmpz5
— The Japan Times (@japantimes) March 18, 2017
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March 18, 2017 at 2:44 am #1566

JoshAre we making more progress than ever before, or less?
I can see more external progress than before, and I feel we are all contributing to that.
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March 18, 2017 at 3:15 am #1570

JoshI have zero direct feedback about my 1-page RSS list or my Twitter Indy News list, so I can’t say much about how they affect things or could be improved to do better. I don’t know if anyone references them directly or if they are just a guide for other helpers. I feel like I do see evidence of various people on the list interacting more with each other than before. So that makes me think it is the work of helpers. That argues for adding more to the list when it feels like people who could help. But I’m not sure.
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March 18, 2017 at 3:35 am #1571

JoshWhat does it mean when half of my comments are followed by a Google spam. Is that a real comment I can’t see or respond to being replaced with junk, or is it something that you initiate?
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March 18, 2017 at 3:17 pm #1577

JoshDid anyone every ask any of you about “sexual harassment”??
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March 18, 2017 at 3:22 pm #1578

JoshThat sounded like a “no”. Because they knew it was nonsense, and wouldn’t care even if it wasn’t.
When I was 13, in 1983, I saw a Dead Kennedys show. In under 3 mins they accurately predicted Trump's 2017 budget https://t.co/fMlbmw4QWV
— Xeni Jardin (@xeni) March 18, 2017
My introduction to JFK assassination research was a video called “Dark Legacy”. The narrator focuses on the phrase “THIS IS HOW POWER KILLS” and I felt that it had a lot of truth about both JFK and me. I kept finding more and more evidence of that over time.
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March 19, 2017 at 7:01 pm #1592

JoshI’ve always regarded you all and treated you all as *at least* my important adult friends. I’ve been completely consistent about that. I never encourage silliness that threatens anyone.
The Lottery rakes in cash but fewer students, particularly poor ones, make the cut for scholarships https://t.co/Cgzf543WFy pic.twitter.com/D9y0XHlAVS
— Miami Herald (@MiamiHerald) March 19, 2017
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March 20, 2017 at 11:37 pm #1608

JoshTrump isn’t much of a gentleman, but his hospitality sounds a whole lot better than what I’ve heard about being a CIA in person (even a living one).
#IvankaTrump to get own @WhiteHouse office in expanding role https://t.co/DrysUt23oa pic.twitter.com/PL6qTbFJqM
— dwnews (@dwnews) March 21, 2017
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March 20, 2017 at 11:55 pm #1609

JoshI can also see that although I’ve graduated from Laurie Blum to William Blum, Laurie’s training was probably more useful in most of the situations I’m finding myself in.
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March 21, 2017 at 12:03 am #1610

JoshInteresting that they didn’t get that one. Let’s try another probe. Search “Hotel California”.
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March 21, 2017 at 12:13 am #1611

JoshThe first point was just about a non-Spook girl I knew who could lie flawlessly, like a psychopath, like a Spook with an earpiece tries to imitate. The second point was that most of the emails I sent via SSL between Apr. 2001 and sometimes in 2013 were not seen in digital form.
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March 22, 2017 at 4:07 am #1633

JoshI want to point out to EV that the CIA and FBI are really powerful and capable, and you can be sure that if they had actually wanted some kind of cooperation or cease-fire then they would have tried to do that sometime over the past 4 years. The fact that they didn’t is an exceptionally strong clue that is not in the cards.
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March 22, 2017 at 4:20 am #1634

JoshOne thing that’s odd is that female ghost editors and other personalities seem to linger around somewhere in, forever, as slaves. However, male personalities and local personalities seem to leave the set to never return after their stint is over. I don’t have any info on what happens to them or where they were before. They leave, and that’s the last info about them.
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March 22, 2017 at 9:51 am #1640

JoshLies and assault with DEW weapons, dishonesty, stings, attempts to cause auto accidents, etc. remained preferred method of “communication” over that period. There was no interval of time that did not feature some union of those elements.
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March 22, 2017 at 9:56 am #1641

JoshUsing undercover assholes with local law enforcement and lying to local law enforcement were also key preferred methods.
Since the start of this adventure, I have done my own research and come to realize that sadistic, violent, criminal dishonest is the preferred method of the CIA and FBI. So here it is business as usual. Dealing with mafia gangsters that love to disguise themselves as bureaucrats and public servants.
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March 22, 2017 at 3:34 pm #1650

JoshEV, you can look at their behavior according to what they value.
High priorities: Money, protecting their phony reputation, secrecy (mainly to protect their phony reputation and to keep making money)
Medium priorities: supporting tons of false stories they have told to the people they control. Style preferences, likes and dislikes
Low priorities: US law. morals, human lives, etc.
There was not going to be any compromise or deviation from slavery and murder because they saw those as best for their high priorities. People with phony stories about all sorts of things could not see the situation, so they didn’t know how that played out. Some of them believed that they could potentially address some of the medium priorities and it might matter. But that was not real in any way or allowed to be real in any way because it would not be consistent with the high priorities.
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